United we fall or fail...

[SpeedoUSA]

Maybe I’m wrong... however I’ll invite and I encourage any feedback surrounding this topic.
Isn’t the goal of this site to rid the stereotypes and phobias of men wearing speedos in public?
Are we not trying to promote more men to feel confident putting on a brief vs. shorts?
I cringe when I see speedo briefs advertised on eBay that describes the suit as “Gay Interest”. ( not that there’s anything wrong with that) I think any and all men should have an interest.
I also feel that posting gay porn on this Speedo Forum is not the place to do so. I think it’s a deterrent and has a negative impact on what we and the site is designed to do. Gay porn has it’s place and this is not it.
Thank you for time on this and again, I encourage all views and feedback. Please be respectful and polite as we try to move forward.

Thank you-


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[Speedoaddict]

Hi SpeedoUSA,
Dave who owns and runs this forum also runs a porn site geared towards the speedo fetish.
http://www.speedofetish.com/
The site is geared towards people of all persuasions and it might be a speedofum but there is only so much you can’t discuss regarding that subject.
Yes sex will come in it thats part of human nature.
People do discuss there swimming habits, what they get upto in their speedos, their sexual preference and what other else they want to talk about. That is the purpose that Dave created the forum. To discuss and celebrate the swim brief in what and any way you like.
If this wasn’t the case then the forum would stagnate and die.
This type topic concerning the forum and it’s varied content has been discussed in previous topics and it always starts an argument.
I think Dave would back me up regarding that.
I think it was BJE who said “if you don’t like the topic don’t read it”
(BJE if it wasn’t you please please tell me).
As far as advertising on speedos on eBay as gay interest that’s just a marketing ploy.
Look at Andrew Christian, Aussiebum, 2XIST they all play the same gay interest card. I don’t take notice of this. I buy what I like and if people don’t like it, tough!

[LycraSteve]

I agree with Speedoaddict 100%, wouldn't add anything theree!

[Speedoaddict]

Cheers Steve. I hoped I had covered all the bases. Lol.

[Speedoaddict]

I think a more important issue is how many registered users the forum has but you only see a small number of the same people joining in the topics, conversations or posting pics.
If it wasn’t for those users I do not know what would happen to the forum.

[Scottiebum]

I accept that there is a broad base of lovers of the speedo. I am ok with topics that cover all sexuality and I will avoid those that do not interest me. What I dislike is when every post becomes sexualised.

[Obe1]

We have become so political correctness and afraid we may offend somebody we have as a whole become we like censorship. Just as men in the USA are afraid of Speedo wearing May be looked on as “Gay” hate labels. As somebody that was worried at one time being Gay was not looked as good I shied away from wearing a speedo in a public place, Supporting the censorship idea... its transformed to guys wearing speedo swim suits at water parks here in Texas being asked to cover up... and I read an article of a guy being asked to leave at Las Vegas hotel pool because others where uncomfortable.

So I get your point, that when you get on sight inhibitions drop and what we do is put porn out there. As gay friendly goes “gay” hate labels, can be more open about what they like instead of keeping it contained inside. I transformed over the years as anti gay which was learned behavior in my opinion, to openly gay. I hate labels, really... but being more open and free to express myself. Not worry about what others might think. I don’t carry a flag raising it at every street corner saying look at me. But I understand their - our freedoms. So, before applying censorship, let’s maybe use our right to just not look. Or not be quick
To be offended... just accepting of others being different than ourselves.

Like family nude beaches.... don’t go and don’t look if it bothers you. I got an awaking when I visited Spain, and the Med side of beaches there... I was embarrassed at the time. We are hopefully adults, and as adults we can censor what we expose ourselves to.

My best speedo day, was going to a gay friends pool party. All shapes all body types where there, and all in briefs except for 2 out of 36 guys. It was great being a part and not being judged. My next pool party was nude, or shortly after I got there they where. I wore my speedo and my friend went in his birthday suit. I wasn’t treated any different, and by the end I slipped my suit off. No hands where clapping or cheers happening, but in my mind they where...

Take care

I am sure I muddied the water on a complex subject. I was here when crap started happening and Dave shut down the site. We are guest really at his pleasure. We can come or go as we please. I tell my grandkids moderation is best.

Tex



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[Speedoaddict]

Obe1 and Scottie I agree with both your statements and I am partly to blame with some of the pics posted which I hold my hands upto.
But without diversity on the forum and topics for everyone’s taste then the content will suffer. Members will stop visiting. But in the other toss of the coin because of the content this could also be off putting. It you unfortunately can’t please everyone.

[blueflinch]

Some interesting questions, SpeedoUSA.

I don't think the purpose of the forum is to fight stereotypes per se or to get the general population into speedos. I think the purpose of the forum is to celebrate speedos and if people do want to explore stereotypes and fashion trends in passing that's cool.

I don't think this is a political site or an activist site, although some individual posters may have activist leanings or an interest in social justice issues. I think it's a place for guys who just love speedos. It's a fan site. And there's an erotic dimension to much of that interest, though not necessarily a homoerotic dimension. (Not all speedo lovers like dick).

I do understand that gay content might not appeal to straight or conservative posters. However, on any internet forum, there's going to be tons of stuff you probably don't want to read/look at. That's where good subject headings (or warning about explicit content) come in handy.

Dave does use this site to cross-promote his other site, which is speedo porn. I think that judgement call is his to make because it's his livelihood. Of course, not everybody wants to look at porn, gay-themed or otherwise. Personally, I'd be fine without the girls-in-swimsuits section. But that would hardly be fair to my fellow users!

I can see what you mean - you're unhappy with the speedo = gay porn connection and think it might put guys off wearing speedos. But it's a bit like asking a bottle shop not to sell alcohol. You can't take away someone's core business ...

[Obe1]

Blueflinch,

Well written, and good point make.

Tex


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[swimmy]

People who swim for fitness and sport don't call speedos gay.
This forum had problems with people being schizophrenic and dishonest and fake and weird. Well, namely one person with multiple aliases. It was annoying and strange what was going on.
Some members don't like nudity but it occasionally happens here. The owner of the site is into it big time so it is going to be allowed, obviously.
Personally I dig a photo of an extremely fine male body in a speedo. I'm so glad that many of them can be seen here.
There isn't much conversation about swimming any more, the speedo talk subjects and discussions quite obviously are mostly gay banter but I always try to be one who tolerates... it doesn't bother me, nor do the photos of cock and cocksucking.
So since that is what goes on here we have to say that indeed, speedos are gay. If the person wearing or staring want them to be.

[NJFrenchy]

I totally understand that some people don’t want to see nudes. I’ve posted a few nudes myself, so I’m not one of them. I haven’t taken a poll of users on this forum, but it does seem that there’re more gay/bi people than straight here. It just seems inevitable that there will sometimes be nudity. To each his own, live and let live. I do think that if anyone going to post nudes they should only be in the photos section. The speedo talk forum, can be viewed by non members. Deleting the photos after a while is a good idea too.