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Jammers.

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:08 pm
by Speedoaddict
Came across this video on YouTube of a swimmer putting a hammer on.
Can’t believe what a pain in the ass they are to put on.

https://youtu.be/8j8FrodVLuo

https://youtu.be/bvQ1LEPYcxU

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Re: Jammers.

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:46 pm
by rockman748
Yes these types of suits can be a pain to put on, but this is not the traditional style jammer, which could be put on almost as easily as a speedo. This is a racing-only technical suit, made from a fabric generally only designed to last a few (3-5) races and most likely costs near $300. These are for elite swimmers in national and world championships, and given out like candy when sponsored.

Re: Jammers.

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:11 pm
by Speedoaddict
I understand that, it was more of a if these are such a pain to put why use them.


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Re: Jammers.

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:57 am
by swimmy
The elite swimmers are convinced that the tightness makes them swim faster.

Re: Jammers.

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:27 am
by ...:::sam:::...
The silicon bands (leg grippers) also keep them in place so they don't creep up or down, but they make it a real pain in the ass to get them on. If you're wet or sweaty then it make it 20x harder again.

Re: Jammers.

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:25 am
by Thom
...:::sam:::... wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:27 am
The silicon bands (leg grippers) also keep them in place so they don't creep up or down, but they make it a real pain in the ass to get them on. If you're wet or sweaty then it make it 20x harder again.
I bought a TYR, medium tech, jammer a few years ago. I think it was about $US80 on sale. The leg grippers were so tight, I couldn't wear the suit. The longer I wore it, the worse it got. The jammer style made even my sorry bod look sleek, but I'm averse to pain.

Re: Jammers.

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:46 am
by Thom
rockman748 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:46 pm
Yes these types of suits can be a pain to put on, but this is not the traditional style jammer, which could be put on almost as easily as a speedo. This is a racing-only technical suit, made from a fabric generally only designed to last a few (3-5) races and most likely costs near $300. These are for elite swimmers in national and world championships, and given out like candy when sponsored.
In the eighties, they had speedos that were generically called '"paper suits," They were a speedo brief cut, but made of a very thin fabric. Competitive swimmers wore them downsized and super tight. The theory was that they were super streamlined, literally like a second skin. They lasted for only a few races before they started to stretch out of shape. I remember seeing them on TV at the Olympics or World games in the eighties.

Re: Jammers.

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:25 pm
by clem
swimmy wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:57 am
The elite swimmers are convinced that the tightness makes them swim faster.
I hate to say it, but jammers ARE faster than briefs. Watching a swimmer underwater at speed, when you see skin rippling against the pressure of the water rushing by, that's hydrodynamic drag. The more skin you can cover with tight polyester, the better. That's why they made rules that you can't wear material below your knees, and above the waist for men and beyond the shoulders for women.

Re: Jammers.

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:18 pm
by blueflinch
Now remember, boys - fingertips, not fingernails! :lol:

Re: Jammers.

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:35 pm
by BJE
These are the instructions for putting on Funky Trunks jammers. I’ll guarantee you that my Funky Trunks contain more than just a trace of nuts!
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Re: Jammers.

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:31 pm
by Thom
BJE wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:35 pm
These are the instructions for putting on Funky Trunks jammers. I’ll guarantee you that my Funky Trunks contain more than just a trace of nuts!
LOL! When you swim in the ocean, I guess you have salted nuts....

Re: Jammers.

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:35 pm
by Thom
clem wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:25 pm
swimmy wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:57 am
The elite swimmers are convinced that the tightness makes them swim faster.
I hate to say it, but jammers ARE faster than briefs. Watching a swimmer underwater at speed, when you see skin rippling against the pressure of the water rushing by, that's hydrodynamic drag. The more skin you can cover with tight polyester, the better. That's why they made rules that you can't wear material below your knees, and above the waist for men and beyond the shoulders for women.
IIRC, the full, skin tight, body suits of a few years ago (now outlawed by FINA) did reduce times rather dramatically.

Re: Jammers.

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:13 pm
by blueflinch
...:::sam:::... wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:27 am
The silicon bands (leg grippers) also keep them in place so they don't creep up or down, but they make it a real pain in the ass to get them on. If you're wet or sweaty then it make it 20x harder again.
They sound like a suit of armour almost! :shock: :lol:

Re: Jammers.

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:02 pm
by clem
Thom wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:35 pm
clem wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:25 pm
swimmy wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:57 am
The elite swimmers are convinced that the tightness makes them swim faster.
I hate to say it, but jammers ARE faster than briefs. Watching a swimmer underwater at speed, when you see skin rippling against the pressure of the water rushing by, that's hydrodynamic drag. The more skin you can cover with tight polyester, the better. That's why they made rules that you can't wear material below your knees, and above the waist for men and beyond the shoulders for women.
IIRC, the full, skin tight, body suits of a few years ago (now outlawed by FINA) did reduce times rather dramatically.
Not to mention some suit makers were sneaking neoprene material into them, which floats! Things were totally out of hand.

I wish they could find a way to legislate getting back to briefs and conventional one-piece suits.

Re: Jammers.

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:46 pm
by Thom
clem wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:02 pm
Not to mention some suit makers were sneaking neoprene material into them, which floats! Things were totally out of hand.

I wish they could find a way to legislate getting back to briefs and conventional one-piece suits.
Totally agree. I'd forgot about the added neoprene.